Big Tech Told Kids to Code. The Jobs Didn’t Follow.

New York Times Podcasts September 29, 2025
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For the past decade, a simple message has been delivered to a generation of American students: If you learn to code and complete a computer science degree, you’ll get a job with a six-figure salary. Now, thousands of students who followed the advice are discovering that the promise was empty. Natasha Singer, a technology reporter for The Times, explains. Guest: Natasha Singer (https://www.nytimes.com/by/natasha-singer) , a technology reporter in the business section of The New York Times. Background reading:  • Goodbye, $165,000 tech jobs. Student coders seek work at Chipotle (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html) . For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily (http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily) . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Photo: Andrew Spear for The New York Times Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts (http://nytimes.com/podcasts) or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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