Conscious Agents vs Cognitive Agents with Donald Hoffman and Michael Levin

Philosophy Babble February 3, 2023
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#evolution #consciousness #donaldhoffman #cognitivescience #micheallevin #neuroscience #cognitive In Philosophy Babble - The Great Minds Series On Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/47tpccav On Acast: https://tinyurl.com/y7zkmnwj In this instalment: We’re delighted to have Professor Emeritus of Cognitive Science Donald Hoffman and Professor of Developmental and Synthetic Biology Michael Levin to discuss their great works. This conversation was recorded during a live session on Clubhouse @philosophybabble Apology for the slight audio and video quality/issues during the conversation. We had a great time getting educated on the topic, both Professors have a great sense of humours and we had some interruption, some drama but a lot of fun moments too. Wonderful time well spent! Topic of discussion: Conscious Agency/Cognitive Agency The view in our cognitive scientists today is that we construct our perception of reality in real time. The questions was, could we be misinterpreting the content of our perceptual experiences? And What is our current understanding in the biology of science? According to evolution, what we perceive with our brain and our senses does not reflect the true nature of the reality. Why should you care? The implications of such radical finding rock the foundation of our belief systems that space-time is fundamental. Timecodes 00:00 - Intro 01:28 - Any new project for 2023? 01:29 - Levin on his outstanding long list of project 02:33 - Ivy and Don were shock with Levin’s list, very impressive! 02:39 - Don on new up coming new paper - Look out for it! 03:09 - Don is looking on a dynamic and he speak on the insight 05:41 - Ivy’s on Levin’s tweets - find out what it is! 06:23 - Ivy’s ask about the toy that missing 06:30 - Levin on his childhood memory 07:33 - Levin on the notion of selfhood 09:10 - Levin on what’s he meant on ”illusory self” 12:07 - Is space-time a data structure? 12:20 - Don on time and space 17:33 - Levin on the profound idea of space-time 21:41 - Summarising Don’s model from an autistic point of view (shocker!) 22:07 - Its raving BONKER 22:12 - Has that view change your life? 22:23 - Don on realisation of the reality has yet to sunk it, slow process 26:14 - We’re programmed at the stage since we're 3 months old baby 26:40 - Levin on a lunch debate with a friend on free will (funny moment!) 28:18 - Levin on two side of the common conditioning Experience vs Memory 31:12 - Dinosaur is not real? Sad moment, just saying HA! 31:18 - Funny reaction from both professor 31:29 - Don on Dinosaur is an art effect! (I’m sad to let it goes) 33:33 - Funny moment from both professor when we were rudely interrupted by an audience 34:09 - Don on Conscious Agent Model / maths and physics 38:43 - The question on the maths ? 39:09 - What is a measurable space? 42:12 - Levin arrive at the same understanding with Don through biology lenses 47:42 - Levin's perspective of the theory on consciousness 50:14 - Don on split brain phenomena 54:24 - The brilliant moment of the different of perspective on split brain story by Levin 57:39 - Common factor of all these conscious agents? 01:00:30 - Question on panpsychism to Levin 01:06:14 - How many conscious agency to make a photon? 01:10:50 - Prakash on plant biology 01:13:15 - Andy (Hiro Protagonist) great question! 01:16:12 - Don on evolution game theory 01:23:34 - Don on Nima’s work and future collaboration 01:26:23 - Willi questions 01:31:24 - Levin on bio-electricity 01:36:06 - The notion on reality 01:41:58 - Mehran question on perception through the view of Fristion’s Markov blanket 01:44:17 - The idea of perception is bayesian inference nicely explain by Don 01:47:21 - John’s question to don’s hypothesis of letting go of space time 01:52:50 - John only joking! 01:53:04 - Vinod challenging Don for the objectives of the conscious agents 01:53:40 - Don set thing straight with Vinod 01:55:48 - Ethan get the chance to complete his interrupting moment with Don 01:57:24 - Did Don roll his eyes? 01:58:43 - Toni got the last question. Don show so much humility all through the Q&A session! 02:01:40 - The Three Musketeers and Donald Hoffman 02:02:22 - Madir's emotional plead as he didn’t get his question ask. Sorry Madir **Your Support Makes a Difference!** If you’d like to help support the channel, consider donating at: https://paypal.me/philosophybabble A huge thank you to the incredible team and everyone who joined us on the day—we couldn’t have done it without you! JOIN US AT: CLUBHOUSE FOR FUTURE LIVE SESSION Clubhouse: @philosophybabble Copyright © 2023 by Philosophy Babble. All rights reserved.

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