Lindiwe Zulu: Trump-Ramaphosa meeting, ‘GNU’, budget, ANC, MK Party, DRC, BRICS, 49 ‘refugees’

SMWX May 16, 2025
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In today’s episode, we sit down with ANC veteran and former minister Lindiwe Zulu for an unfiltered conversation about her life in exile, her time in Umkhonto weSizwe, and the evolution of South African politics. Zulu shares untold stories of underground activism, her role in international diplomacy, and her views on the ANC’s coalition with the DA. From her time in Angola and Russia to the challenges of governing today, this is a deep and powerful reflection on struggle, service, and leadership. Become a YouTube Member of SMWX: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk_qa4ssROH8aUDbgQXE5dA/join Visit the SMWX store for merch and books: https://smwx.store CONTACT: ✉️: [email protected] 📞WhatsApp Line: 082 891 4935 Visit my website: sizwempofuwalsh.com _______ Credits: Director and DOP: Nomaan Haarzavi for Narr8 Studio Second Camera Operator: Faizan Haq for Narr8 Studio Producer: Oratile Kekana ________ 00:00:00 – Lindiwe Zulu Joins SMWX 00:01:22 – What Politicised Lindiwe Zulu? 00:04:57 – Hosting Exiled Students After 1976 00:08:27 – How Zulu Joined Umkhonto we Sizwe 00:12:14 – Studying in Moscow, Fighting for SA 00:14:31 – MK Recruitment: No Shortcuts to Leadership 00:16:04 – Choosing Armed Struggle Over Comfort 00:18:23 – Reunion with PAC Brother in Exile 00:21:25 – Why Zulu Opposed Ending Armed Struggle 00:26:33 – Angola: The Untold War Front 00:28:07 – Was the Struggle Worth It? 00:31:17 – Transitioning into Government After 1994 00:35:24 – Diplomatic Missions in Africa's War Zones 00:36:04 – From Parliament to Vodacom 00:39:37 – Becoming South Africa’s Ambassador to Brazil 00:40:37 – DRC Conflict: Leadership and Loss 00:46:30 – Trump, Afrikaner Exodus, and US Tensions 00:51:17 – “They Mustn’t Come Back” – On Emigrants 00:54:23 – Navigating Trump Era: Aggress or Apologize? 00:57:56 – Global Shifts: Declining US, Rising China 01:03:44 – Why Africa Must Defend South Africa 01:04:51 – Zulu: I Need Counselling Over GNU 01:11:36 – Inside the ANC’s GNU Frustration 01:13:06 – Budget Battles and Social Grant Crisis 01:18:43 – NEC Meeting Could Decide GNU Future 01:20:35 – Who Should Be the Next ANC President? 01:24:55 – “It’s Time for a Woman President”