Trump’s Luck Finally RAN OUT In Iran | Chuck Todd Politics Podcast w/ Fiona Hill

The Chuck ToddCast March 13, 2026
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Fiona Hill — who served on the National Security Council under three presidents and became a household name during Trump's first impeachment — joins the Chuck ToddCast for a deeply alarming assessment of the Iran war now entering its second week, with Operation Epic Fury having metastasized into a multi-front conflict spanning nine countries, oil prices surging past $100 a barrel, and thousands of travelers stranded across the Middle East. Hill dismantles the geopolitical chessboard with surgical precision, explaining that while there is no formal alliance between Russia and Iran and that the relationship is deeply transactional, with Iran having provided Russia with Shahed drones and helped build a drone factory. She argues that China is letting the U.S. "rope-a-dope" itself, sitting back alongside Russia to watch America bleed resources and credibility in yet another Middle Eastern quagmire. The conversation turns existential as Hill warns that Trump's adventurism — which never faced serious consequences through Venezuela or the June 2025 strikes that made Iran look like a paper tiger — has now collided with reality. Hill calls it an Afghanistan-and-Iraq-level jam with even less global credibility.. They raise the chilling question of whether Xi Jinping might prioritize seizing Taiwan while America is overextended, observes that NORAD doesn't function without Canada and the Nordic countries that Trump has alienated, warns that the damage to America's reputation will last decades, and notes that individual U.S. states are already setting up their own diplomatic representation with foreign countries to fill the vacuum. They close with a striking contrast: unlike Russians, Americans can still vote their way out of tyranny — but the window in which that remains true may be narrowing. Timeline 00:00 Fiona Hill joins the Chuck ToddCast 01:15 There is no formal alliance between Russia and Iran 02:00 Historically, Russia and Iran clashed over territory 03:45 Iran provided Russia with Shahed drones & helped build factory 04:30 Trump views his relationship with Russia & Putin in a vacuum 05:30 Iran’s relationship with China & Russia is very transactional 06:15 Iran sees itself as a civilization, not just a country 08:00 China is letting the U.S. “rope a dope” itself 10:00 Witkoff didn’t take Iranians at their word but did with Russia 10:30 China & Russia are sitting back and watching what happens in Iran 11:30 Special military operations often become quagmires 12:45 Trump hasn’t thought about the knock-on consequences in Iran 15:45 Trump’s adventurism never had serious consequences until now 17:30 9/11 shaped the frame for American thinking for 25 years 18:30 Do you buy that MBS pushed Trump into striking Iran? 19:30 The Chinese didn’t see unintended effects of war in Ukraine 20:30 Russia has 20x casualty rate in Ukraine that USSR had in Afghanistan 24:00 The Israelis are clear that they want regime change 24:15 Outside of eliminating the nuclear program… What's our aim? 25:45 Without change, Iranian and Venezuelan people will turn on Trump 26:45 There’s a large Iranian population is many countries 27:15 Trump is in a Afghanistan/Iraq level jam with no plan 28:00 Gutting of national security council effects on Trump’s planning 29:15 We’ve lost grip of our political system, congress has abdicated 30:30 High oil prices could be a boon to Russia, but shipping is an issue 32:45 Putin doesn’t want to end the war in Ukraine unless its on his terms 33:30 Ukraine has been an incredibly tough fighting force 34:15 The rich & powerful forget that the other 8 billion people have agency 35:45 Ukraine won’t have a peace imposed on it by outsiders 36:30 Trump assumes everyone else is as transactional as he is 37:30 Khamenei is a religious leader, his killing has religious implications 42:30 Asymmetrical war feels unwinnable 44:45 The damage to America’s reputation in the world will last decades 48:15 How can a future president try to fix the damage with allies? 49:15 Individual states are setting up representation with foreign countries 51:15 If you’re Xi, do you prioritize seizing Taiwan while Trump’s in office? 53:00 We’re likely in a post-American empire period 53:45 Is there any heir apparent to Putin? 57:30 Unlike Russians, Americans can still vote their way out of tyranny Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to https://Quince.com/chuck for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thank you Wildgrain for sponsoring. Visit http://wildgrain.com/TODDCAST and use the code "TODDCAST" at checkout to receive $30 off your first box PLUS free Croissants for life! Visit our website: https://thechucktoddcast.com/ Follow us on social media: https://x.com/chucktodd https://www.instagram.com/thechucktoddcast/ https://www.facebook.com/chucktodd https://www.tiktok.com/@thechucktoddcast #politics #news #trump #war #iran #iranwar #russia #china #geopolitics

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