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这是一个增长见识的地方 —— 这里,没有吸人眼球的腥膻色骂; 这里,没有紧贴时事的好恶赞骂; 这里,没有众人热捧的娱乐八卦; 这里,没有短小精干的轻松愉快; 这里,没有党同伐异的政治立场; 这里,没有添加广告的我要挣钱; —— 这里,只是我的阅览记录。在浩瀚的信息中,在好的阅览体验与坏的阅览体验中,挑出一些不算太坏的,然后挑个地方,存起来。 —— 这里的视频,高时长,没有耐心, 你一个都看不完; 这里的视频,高内涵,没有知识, 你一个都看不懂; 这里的视频,低情绪,你爱骂人, 你会觉得很无趣; 这里的视频,低热度,你爱热闹, 你会觉得很无聊。 —— 我相信,真正有水平的人,极富耐心,极度包容,极端博学。真正有水平的人,礼貌而谦逊,有内涵而不片面,有观点而不偏激。 —— 如果我们 只接收同一个渠道的信息, 只学习同一种立场的理念, 只聆听同一类人物的观点。 —— 我们就会, 被渠道洗脑, 被立场洗脑, 被人物洗脑。 我们以为掌握了宇宙万物真理, 我们实际失去了独立思考能力。 —— 共和与立宪、革命与改良、社会主义与资本主义、国家社会主义与社会民主主义、凯恩斯主义经济学与古典自由主义经济学、劳动价值论与边际价值论、儒家与法家、法家与道家、社会达尔文主义与进步主义、经验主义与理性主义、效益主义与康德主义,实证主义法学派与自然法学派、环境保护主义与外星殖民主义,社群主义与自由主义、历史必然论与历史偶然论.......等等。 —— 以上对立的两派,我们了解多少?以上对立的两派,我们可能只了解一派或两派都完全没有听说过。那么,我们观点的自信,是从何而来的呢?在社会学科领域,只有上帝才知道谁正确,因为只有上帝完全了解我们所暂不了解的所有信息。而我们自己,永远都无法在任何一个问题上,了解其背后的所有信息。 —— 大部分人类总是盲目地展示自己的愚蠢,同时窃喜自己的“聪明”,大部分人类拒绝聆听其他信息、拒绝交流其他观点。不同理念的人,总是认定自己掌握着真理。最终陷入相互猜忌→相互辱骂→相互对立→相互内斗。 —— ①是否只浏览自己所喜欢的资讯?明天可能发觉不喜欢的资讯才是真相。 —— ②是否反感并拒绝与自己不同的人交流?明天可能发觉别人的观点才是正确。 —— ③是否对人不对事?是否对别人进行猜忌辱骂?明天可能发觉自己才是失态。 —— 在这里,你需要的,只是耐心,你获得的,却是智慧。

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