Anna Saccone: “People Are Wrong About Jonathan” The Truth About Quitting The SACCONEJOLYs

We Need To Talk November 11, 2025
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In her first ever solo interview, YouTube creator and mum of four Anna Saccone opens up about the truth behind the @sacconejolys, the hidden pain behind her picture-perfect life, and the moments that almost broke her. Content warning: This episode includes discussion of eating disorders and miscarriage. For the first time, Anna shares the real story behind her marriage, her relationship with Jonathan, and the intense pressure of raising a family online while facing constant criticism and scrutiny. She also speaks candidly about her struggles with bulimia, body image, and identity - and how she’s finally learning to live life on her own terms. Anna shares: ◽ Why she wasn’t truly happy on her wedding day ◽ How her father’s obsession with appearance impacted her ◽ How she built a family-vlog channel that earned tens of thousands a month ◽ What it’s really like raising her transgender daughter in the public eye ◽ How she feels about the negative comments ◽ How returning to school became her way of reclaiming her voice Anna Saccone, We Need To Talk. This conversation includes discussion of eating disorders and baby loss. We’ve included support links below, along with the organisation Anna mentions in the episode, which provides resources for transgender healthcare: Beat Eating Disorders - https://g2ul0.app.link/gHK6cjr3ZRb Tommy’s: https://g2ul0.app.link/yiLgVePdnVb Sands: https://g2ul0.app.link/1c7K7WVdnVb Anne Healthcare - https://g2ul0.app.link/BWEMiCQBbYb Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod 00:00 Intro 01:31 Why Anna Decided To Do This Podcast Without Jonathan 02:39 Anna's Experience Growing Up in Baltimore 05:46 How Puberty Affected Anna's Relationship With Her Dad 05:47 Moving From Baltimore to Cork 12:15 The Beginnings of Anna's Eating Disorder 14:28 Meeting Jonathan & Quitting University 17:05 What Anna Initially Saw in Jonathan 23:43 How Anna and Jonathan Started on YouTube 28:05 Surprise Message From Jonathan 30:01 Anna's Struggle With Bulimia 32:48 Anna's Advice for Anyone Going Through an Eating Disorder 36:24 How the Growth of the YouTube Channel Affected Anna 42:44 Why Anna Thinks They’ve Been So Popular on YouTube 47:14 How Anna Deals With Online Criticism 58:03 Transgender Statistics in the UK and Anna’s View on the Current Climate 1:03:13 Shopify Ad 1:04:11 Adobe Express Ad 1:05:13 Anna’s Perspective on Featuring Her Children on Social Media 1:16:03 How Motherhood Impacted Anna 1:17:54 Struggling to Connect With Other Mums 1:22:57 Jonathan’s Gender Identity 1:25:54 How Anna Feels About the Negativity Directed Toward Jonathan 1:31:00 Dealing With Online Hate 1:33:30 Quick Fire Questions 1:39:05 Anna’s Decision to Retrain in Nutrition 1:41:15 Most Memorable Conversation 1:45:32 Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: https://www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Adobe Express: https://ADOBE.LY/PAUL Sync-ID MB01F2OEZYBVDUH

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