Ep. 224: The Story of HAIM

And The Writer Is... October 13, 2025
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Today’s guests are one of the most unique voices in music — and they’ve carved out one of the most iconic sounds of their generation. Not to mention having collaborated with some of the biggest names in music. And the writer(s) are... HAIM! Dive into an unfiltered conversation with HAIM — a decade-long journey of grit, growth, and staying true when the world said no. We talk about: • How they found success their way after years of reps and rejection • The real stories behind their music • How they learned to write songs that move millions and more. Chapters | 0:00 Intro Teaser: HAIM’s Gritty Start Against All Odds 0:30 Nobody Wanted to Sign Us: The early rejections that almost stopped HAIM 1:10 The Sister Dynamic: Therapy, tension, and love between bandmates 2:30 Strict Parents, Rebellion, and First Gigs 5:00 Leaving for Tour at 19: How Danielle risked it all to chase music 7:30 Almost Famous in Real Life: Touring with Jenny Lewis and Julian Casablancas 9:15 Skipping College and Faking Dentist Notes: The wild high school years 12:30 Oldest Sibling Pressure & UCLA Lessons 13:38 When Our Parents Finally Believed in Us: The SNL moment 15:00 Nobody Wanted Rock Music: How HAIM broke through rejection 16:00 Meeting Ludwig Göransson: The producer who changed everything 18:30 Making Music After Work at 2 AM: Building the “Forever” EP 20:00 South by Southwest Chaos: Playing 14 shows in 5 days 22:00 The UK Breakthrough: Why British fans got it first 25:10 How They Learned to Write Songs: Lessons from “Rockin’ Haim” 27:00 Recording Songs from the Radio as Kids: The origin of their craft 31:10 The First HAIM Song Ever: Writing through bad demos to “The Wire” 34:10 The 10,000 Hours: Becoming one of the best live bands in LA 35:45 Days Are Gone: The chaotic rise and finding their sound 38:30 Working with James Ford & Ariel Rechtshaid 40:50 Balancing Chaos and Craft: The HAIM recording process 42:10 Collaborating with Kid Cudi: Their first big studio session 43:10 Touring, Exhaustion, and Finding Their Groove 44:45 Mid-Roll Ad: NMPA – Champions of Songwriters and Publishers 45:15 Shutting Down Ventura Blvd: The iconic “Want You Back” video story 47:39 Women in Music Pt. III: Growth, maturity, and vulnerability 48:30 GarageBand and Songwriting: Danielle’s creative superstition 49:30 The Making of “I Quit”: Finding a new voice 50:00 Creative Control & Saying No to Labels: Standing their ground 52:00 Learning from Paul Thomas Anderson: Long-take storytelling and vision Presented by our friends at @NMPA @splice NMPA fights for songwriters' rights, ensuring fair pay and protection. Check them out at NMPA.org and follow them on social media at @NMPAorg Splice is the industry’s top sample library—royalty-free for all. It empowers creators with its incredible library and ethical AI tools, supporting original artists every step of the way. Download Splice today and follow them on social media at @splice And The Writer Is... Hosted by Ross Golan Executive produced by Joe London and Jad Saad Follow us on socials at @andthewriteris

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