Mehdi Hasan vs Michael Gove DEBATE Part 2: Will Trump 2.0 Make the World a Safer Place?

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In a second round of debate, Mehdi and Michael dig deeper: from Iran bombings and Gaza massacres to Trump’s much-trumpeted Congo “peace deal.” Mehdi ridicules the idea that Trump deserves a Nobel, while Michael Gove praises interventions like the Abraham Accords and Congo talks. NATO spending, Ukraine’s abandonment, and authoritarian alliances are fiercely debated. Can peace really be built on Trump’s unpredictable, transactional deals - or is it all chaos dressed up as diplomacy Michael Gove is the Editor of The Spectator. As the former Member of Parliament for Surrey Heath and UK Government Cabinet Minister, he served in Cabinet across five government departments for more than a decade, from the 2010 Coalition government onwards. After being elected as an MP in 2005, Michael was elevated to the shadow front bench before joining David Cameron’s Cabinet in the first Conservative-led government in 13 years. Serving as Secretary of State for Education, he steered through some of the biggest changes to education in half a century. He went on to serve in the cabinets of three of the four subsequent Prime Ministers, including as Chief Whip, Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, Secretary of State for Justice, for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities. He also led the Vote Leave campaign, which confounded expectations by winning the 2016 Brexit referendum. Michael’s ministerial responsibilities have stretched from preparing for Brexit to housing reforms and environmental policy to overseeing the government’s Covid-19 response. Before entering frontline politics, Michael was a journalist, author and commentator. Working at The Telegraph, as well as local newspapers and TV in his native Scotland, he moved to the BBC and then to The Times as a columnist, leader writer and Assistant Editor. He is the author of acclaimed books including a biography of Michael Portillo, and analyses of the Northern Ireland peace process and of Islamist terrorism. Mehdi Hasan is an award-winning British-American journalist, broadcaster, and author. He is the founder, CEO and editor-in-chief of the new media company Zeteo. Mehdi is also a Guardian columnist, host of ‘Head to Head’ on Al Jazeera English and the best-selling author of Win Every Argument: The Art of Debating, Persuading, and Public Speaking. He previously worked as an anchor at MSNBC and columnist for The Intercept. Ritula Shah is a journalist and broadcaster. She is currently presenter of Calm Classics on Classic FM and was previously the main presenter of the World Tonight, BBC Radio 4’s main evening news programme.

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